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Postby linus87 » 03 Apr 2012 00:57
Yes, this is a submerged stem..It produces submerged flowers as L. senegalensis or Didiplis diandra.
I will observe the flowers, it is important to see the yellow petals.
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Postby linus87 » 03 May 2012 02:06
This is the plant under 0,8 w/l of Pl lamp..the color is not intense
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Postby Sumpfheini » 03 May 2012 22:02
Hi Lino,
Yes, this is a submerged stem..It produces submerged flowers as L. senegalensis or Didiplis diandra.
I will observe the flowers, it is important to see the yellow petals.

[edit] OK; it might be that the flowers don't open wide underwater, hardly showing the petals if these are present. But they could be found by removing the sepals (the outer triangular green flower leaves).
Do the submersed flowers develop into fruits with seeds?

For comparison a pic of emersed Ludwigia palustris with flowers (lacking petals, only the triangular green sepals) and developing fruits: http://zipcodezoo.com/Plants/L/Ludwigia_palustris/
This species produces many fruits with fertile seeds, it's rather an annual plant in the nature (but can be cultivated as perennial).

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Postby linus87 » 18 May 2012 14:44
Heiko, these are the flowers when they are open :smile:

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Postby Sumpfheini » 18 May 2012 21:34
Hi Lino,
so there's not a bit of yellow petals? That would point to Ludwigia palustris. Probably the emersed plant would develop fruits with fertile seeds.
Ludwigia palustris occurs in many parts of Italy: http://luirig.altervista.org/flora/taxa ... +palustris
It would be interesting to compare the 'Red' with Italian L. palustris in culture.

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Postby linus87 » 19 May 2012 17:21
No,I don't see the yellow petals, but maybe it does not produce the petals in water.
...or maybe it's a small form of L. palustris..
Roberto Pelligrini has a big collection of Ludwigia spp and I'm sending him the plant.
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Postby kiko » 03 Jul 2012 19:02
hi,
die Pflanze gibts ja nun schon doch seit längerem für ~10euro pro Stengel in diversen deutschen Shops zu kaufen.
Wollt daher mal nachfragen, ob derweil jemand sich denn schon die Pflanze in DE gekauft hat und wie sie sich entwickelt?
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Postby kiko » 09 Aug 2012 12:33
Hallo,
da derweil ein Exemplar bei mir rumschwirrt, hab ich mal nachgemessen:
Die reine Blattgröße sind 1,5cm, rechnet man den Stiel dazu sind es 2cm.
Imo sehr schöne Pflanze vorallem für Cubes. :smile:

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Postby Sumpfheini » 22 Jan 2013 20:01
Hallo,

Frage: Ist diese Ludwigia "Super Red" identisch mit Lino's Ludwigia sp. 'Red'?: nachricht216738.html
Planet Plants führt eine als Ludwigia mini "Super Red", und bei Extraplant wird die (wahrscheinlich) gleiche Pflanze als Ludwigia repens "Super Red" angeboten. Falls auch die mit Lino's Pflanze identisch ist, hat sie botanisch wahrscheinlich mehr mit Ludwigia palustris als mit repens zu tun: http://www.aquaticplantcentral.com/foru ... post606357

Falls hier jemand das Buch "Aquarienpflanzen" von C. Kasselmann hat (auch ältere Ausgaben): schaut euch mal das Foto von Ludwigia palustris dort an. Schon sehr ähnlich den oben gezeigten Pflanzen. Zitat aus der Beschreibung (3. Auflage 2010, S. 417): "Werden die Sprosse gut beleuchtet, verzweigen sie sich und färben sich intensiv rot."

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Postby alanyusupov » 22 Jan 2013 20:54
Tropica have this sp. as a new ludwigia red, is very dark red color

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Postby aquapunk » 22 Jan 2013 22:24
I do have Ludwigia Super Red from Olaf (Kiko) and Ludwigia Super Red from Extraplant next to each other in my tank and it looks like it is the same plant after I keep the ones from Extraplant submers for 2 weeks now. Emers they looked completely different.

It also is the same plant than Ludwiga sp. that Tropica just introduced which I have at work to compare to the ones in my tank.
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Postby alanyusupov » 22 Jan 2013 22:52
I have tryed form tropica, from asia, from usa, from http://www.aquascaping-shop.de and all of them becomes, same size , looks the same

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Postby Sumpfheini » 23 Jan 2013 08:47
Hello,
thank You both, so it's all the same stuff under slightly different names.

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Postby Alexk2508 » 23 Jan 2013 10:37
Hallo,

dann haben wir damals mit der vermutung scheinbar doch richtig gelegen . :thumbs:

http://www.flowgrow.de/artenbestimmung/was-habe-ich-denn-da-ergattert-t25746.html
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Postby Sumpfheini » 23 Jan 2013 13:30
Hi Alex,
ja, denke ich auch!
Wahrscheinlich wird es in Zukunft ein bisschen Verwirrung um die Bezeichnungen geben, habe gesehen, dass die "Rubin" (die sich wirklich von der hier gemeinten "Red" unterscheidet) in einer Gärtnerei unter dem Namen Ludwigia sp. "Red" geführt wird.

Ärgerlich dass ich nicht mehr meine Ludwigia palustris von früher für den Vergleich mit der L. (palustris?) "Red" habe. Die war schon bei etwas weniger als 0,5 W/L satt orangerot und hat sich relativ stark verzweigt.

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